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Re: sound card recommendations



To further add to Pawels comments regarding firewire / USB – be aware that Apple are removing the firewire ports from a lot of there more recent machines, and instead are using Thunderbolt. Whilst you can get thunderbolt to firewire adapters, the long term support for firewire by Apple seems to be waning.






From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pawel Kusmierek
Sent: Monday 7 January 2013 14:08
To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] sound card recommendations




I have had a lot of good experience and a little of bad experiences) with M-Audio, both PCI based and USB based. E-mu USB interfaces are regarded pretty highly among cheaper ones as well.  Like Lorenzo said, there are zillions of options. You can go to sweetwater or zzounds or musiciansfriend or bhphotovideo and get overwhelmed :-)


Many people will agree - although I am not sure how well supported this belief is - that USB-based cards are slightly more likely to have problems with skipping etc in some systems than Firewire-based ones. On the other hand, FW cards usually have more (possibly unnecessary, but driving the price up) inputs and outputs than USB cards.


If you go for digital settings like Lorenzo advises, make sure that the card's mixer application gets it right. I remember a version of M-Audio mixer app for their PCI cards that used wring dB formula ('10 times' instead of '20 times'). Another option is to buy/make a separate computer-controlled attenuator for volume control. 


Hope that helps




On 6 January 2013 12:03, Lorenzo Picinali <LPicinali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Josh,
there are lots of options, and they mainly depend on how much you want to spend.
In general, I'd prefer to have an external interface (USB and/or Firewire) with the following characteristics:
-Digitally controlled headphone amplifier and microphone preamplifiers (this would allow for perfectly repeatable levels)
-A SNR higher than 100 dBA

RME (Digiface and Fireface) are very good, and allow very accurate calibrations (e.g. changing sample rate outside the standard values of 44.100, 48.000, 96.000...), and also MOTU (828, Traveller) are very good, but these are mainly multichannel models, with 8+ in and out channels with DA and AD converters, so...it might not be useful for you to have so many channels (even if...in the future you might need them...you never know...).

Apogee DUET is a smaller interface...not too cheap (about 350 pounds) but the converters are very good...there is also a smaller version called ONE, which is half price and has anyway a stereo headphones output.
After these, there are many other cheaper interfaces from brands such as Presonus, M-Audio, Focusrite...I'd say that they are all ok...as said before, I'd just go for an interface with digitally controlled headphones output level, and not with a standard analogue knob, which makes it impossible to re-calibrate the levels in the same way in different sessions.

I hope it helps!

Dr. Lorenzo Picinali
Senior Lecturer in Music/Audio Technology
Faculty of Technology
De Montfort University, The Gateway
Leicester, LE1 9BH
Tel 0116 207 8051


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